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Veinos
03-19-2012, 05:21 PM
here we go again, havent won a single day this month running at least 1-2bi under ev every time.

6 max NLHE 100nl

this month graph:

225

and just to show how consistently i manage to get those results here are my last 140k hands

226

CONSISTENT is the way it is. I honestly do not believe that ev will ever come back my way. Until I pick up omaha and play really really badly.

I just can't deal with that without it affecting me and making me think about how easy this freaking game could be if it wasn't rigged against me :)

It tilts me pretty badly seeing how my graph would rock if I was able to win when im allin with the best of it.

Do you guys EVER run the opposite way? like 10bi over ev???? can that actually happen to a winning reg? or since we don't get the money in with the worst of it every time, we don't win back that ev?

Hunter Bick
03-20-2012, 12:02 PM
Please don't let the all-in EV number or graph bother you. That thing is so flawed its ridiculous. I can't remember ever seeing a graph where someone had the AIEV line above their winnings, it almost never happens. All this stat does is tilt people, I honestly wish it had never been invented or included in any software, because the way its calculated makes it meaningless for anything other than heads up.

Read this article, Jeff Hwang (a very smart guy and author of several poker books) explains why this stat is garbage.

http://preview.pokertracker.com/blog/2011/10/the-problem-with-all-in-ev-all-in-equity


Note the part where he talks about why HEM routinely overestimates this stat, and that explains why almost nobody has ever posted a graph with significant hand counts that show the AIEV line above the green line.

NoYouDidnt
03-21-2012, 05:36 PM
I was actually about 1k above EV when I had a long break-even strech. Thought I was being unlucky but when I noticed I should have not only breaken even but lost money I realized I have to work on my game.

Last year I think I was 2-3k below EV for the year, my main game is NL100 so I thought that was a ton... I mean whether or not its optimal in multiway pots I think being what someone would consider a bankroll below EV is still quite massive... Some of that did come from NL400 which obv makes quite a difference...

I really like the term all in equity a lot better. Thanks for linking the article Hunter, was an interesting read.

Veinos
03-24-2012, 04:41 PM
Hunter, thanks for the link, it helped (one night) then I played the next morning had yet another 2-3 bi down session and went on life tilt cause of that ev, its ridiculous.

This month I had 3 winning days over 15 days of playing...

NoYouDidn't last year (I pretty much quit poker (should have really)) I was 15k under ev at 100nl-200nl, and some 400nl NLHE and that is not an effect of those boss media like site where all ins doesn't show, it does...
and it just never stopped going downhill since then. Making me struggle to beat 25-50nl.

I know my game is far from perfect, I might not be working as hard as I should, but what's the point if you're losing every opportunity you have to win a big pot... It drops my motivation to a pure zero cause deeply inside i feel it's pointless. I see complete monkeys playing like they had live brain surgery and crushing those games with any two cards and the good river.
I see those guys going to showdown over 40% of the time and winning over 70% of them over 1k hands+, while I go to showdown barely 25-28% when i run like **** and win those 35-40% of the time... Go figure

sick bad month = life tilt = I hate the game.

Does Jared coaches apprentice life coach which would charge a lot less ? :)
I wish i could afford the equivalent of a micro stake coach but in the mental tilt coach department!

anyway, imma go drink out my tilt.
peace